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Old Sep 22, 2010, 09:34 PM // 21:34   #1
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I'm trying to use an ele variation of a build used for Vaettir farming HM. The only problem I have with it, is that after one cycle of casting the attacks, the vaettir are left with 1 health. Staying alive and managing energy is no problem. Just that I'd rather I not have to wait for a skill to recharge and recast, I've been trying to work out a way to do it in one cycle of casts without success. Any suggestions?

E/Mo

Attributes:
Earth: 12 +1 +3
Energy Storage: 3 + 1
Smiting : 12

Weapons:
Spear with 20% ench + 5e
Shield with +45 (while ench)

Skills:
Balthazar's Aura
Kirin's Wrath
Symbol of Wrath
Crystal Wave
Glyph of Swiftness
Obsidian Flesh
Stoneflesh Aura
Balthazar's Spirit
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Old Sep 22, 2010, 10:54 PM // 22:54   #2
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The only thing I can come up with is switching balth spirit with zealot's fire, but then you have no energy so that's not viable. I don't think what you want to do can be done. The damage that you bring adds up to 552, not counting the enchanting modifier; with it the extended enchant you have 574 (maybe 596... I don't know if the enchantment modifier rounds up to 2 seconds or stays at 1.6, though I'd guess the latter, therefore you get one extra pulse out of balth aura, adding to 574).

tl;dr: No, I don't think there's anything that can make it do what you want.
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Old Sep 22, 2010, 11:02 PM // 23:02   #3
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Hm... the easiest (and most expensive) way would be using consumables, that give +1 to every attribute (for example golden eggs)

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You could spec 4 into air magic, so that the glyph affects 2 spells - use the second for a damage spell, so that this spell recharges faster.

OR

drop Crystal for EBSoH. EBSoH adds (8..15) * 18 dmg (8 for Balthazar's Aura and 2x5 for the symbols) = 114 ... 270 dmg. (compared to 104 dmg from crystal wave). EBSoH is better even if you don't have any reputation at the vanguard.


Edit: You dont have any problems with scattering? Vaettirs even flee from me if I use crystal wave -> tenais wave
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Old Sep 23, 2010, 01:10 AM // 01:10   #4
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The only thing I can come up with is switching balth spirit with zealot's fire, but then you have no energy so that's not viable. I don't think what you want to do can be done. The damage that you bring adds up to 552, not counting the enchanting modifier; with it the extended enchant you have 574 (maybe 596... I don't know if the enchantment modifier rounds up to 2 seconds or stays at 1.6, though I'd guess the latter, therefore you get one extra pulse out of balth aura, adding to 574).

tl;dr: No, I don't think there's anything that can make it do what you want.
I did this same math yesterday, coming to the conclusion that the vaettir have 575 health. I was expecting your final conclusion. Thanks though


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Hm... the easiest (and most expensive) way would be using consumables, that give +1 to every attribute (for example golden eggs)
I've come up with this too, which isn't very reasonable to me if the goal is to be quicker to make more money faster.

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OR

You could spec 4 into air magic, so that the glyph affects 2 spells - use the second for a damage spell, so that this spell recharges faster.
Hadn't thought of this, seems like the best solution though.

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drop Crystal for EBSoH. EBSoH adds (8..15) * 18 dmg (8 for Balthazar's Aura and 2x5 for the symbols) = 114 ... 270 dmg. (compared to 104 dmg from crystal wave). EBSoH is better even if you don't have any reputation at the vanguard.
A friend and I tried this solution as well, it didn't seem to affect those skills. Not sure why.


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Edit: You dont have any problems with scattering? Vaettirs even flee from me if I use crystal wave -> tenais wave
Nope, don't seem to scatter.
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Old Sep 23, 2010, 01:14 AM // 01:14   #5
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How much health do they have left?

Maybe bring a vampiric scythe of enchanting and just hit them a couple of times if its less then about 10 hp.
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Old Sep 23, 2010, 02:55 AM // 02:55   #6
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How much health do they have left?

Maybe bring a vampiric scythe of enchanting and just hit them a couple of times if its less then about 10 hp.
It's literally 1 health. But I found that by using Glyph on crystal wave makes things a bit quicker and I'm satisfied.
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Old Sep 23, 2010, 04:41 AM // 04:41   #7
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How much health do they have left?

Maybe bring a vampiric scythe of enchanting and just hit them a couple of times if its less then about 10 hp.
Can't attack with Obsidian Flesh up.
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Old Sep 23, 2010, 12:04 PM // 12:04   #8
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(EBSoH) A friend and I tried this solution as well, it didn't seem to affect those skills. Not sure why.
I thought about that a bit, and I think EBSoH grants its bonus damage only to armor-sensitive damage sources. That would explain why physicals, eles (even Silver Armor as an indirect damage source) profit from EBSoH, but not damage from mesmer/necro spells and hexes.

Does anyone know an example which shatters that theory?


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Maybe bring a vampiric scythe of enchanting and just hit them a couple of times if its less then about 10 hp.
I'm not sure, but I think he needs the +10armor against earth from the shield, because the reduction from stoneflesh alone isn't enough.
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Old Sep 24, 2010, 12:26 AM // 00:26   #9
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Balthazar's Aura
Kirin's Wrath
Symbol of Wrath

all of these cause fleeing, no?

Regardless, I think this belongs in the farming forum.
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Old Sep 24, 2010, 11:03 PM // 23:03   #10
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Balthazar's Aura
Kirin's Wrath
Symbol of Wrath

all of these cause fleeing, no?

Regardless, I think this belongs in the farming forum.
No, if you would have read up... I said there are no problems other than them remaining with 1 health when I cast one cycle of the attack skills.
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Old Sep 25, 2010, 12:12 AM // 00:12   #11
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Another Try: Drop Crystal Wave for By Ural's Hammer! or Intensity. Im not sure if they last long enough (or if Intensity boots smiting spells) but it would be enough to kill the vaettirs.

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(574         - 106 ) * 1.25        = 585
(your damage - wave) * damageboost > Vaettir's life
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